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  re: question on the magi

  by A Paduan in

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  i think that i read somewhere that jws believe that the magi who followed the star were 'evil' .

  is that the case - if so how did they figure that?

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  A star shall rise out of Jacob

  The Magi from the east are the worldly wise behold, men having their backs towards the temple of the Lord and their faces towards the east

  But we have seen his star - we have seen his grace amid the vanity of the world - sinners who see the light.

  By this light they are drawn to Gods chosen people - but Herod is king there, and they do not find Him there - but he's near. Where is He that is born King of the Jews?

  The devil is troubled by people not glorying in him - w hen Herod the king heard this, he was troubled, and all with him - and all Jerusalem by their lives, the inclusion of those from the east, and the perceived absence of 'He who is born King'.

  When they turn away to 'Herods' secret summons they lose sight of the star (Nevertheless, return to me saith the Lord) - and they depart, go their way.

  And seeing the star they rejoiced with exceeding great joy - like prodigal sons who return to themselves and go 'inside the house', they enter - and entering the house they found the child with Mary his mother, and, falling down, they adored him

  A joyful story of sinners who repent, but Herod doesnt like all that, no glorying for him, no simple affections of reason envy slayeth the little one

  Paduan

  I am the root and stock of David, the bright and morning star Shall not I that make others to bring forth children, myself bring forth? Says the Lord

  And for the jws, why didn't Satan show Herod the star?

  Edited by - a paduan on 21 August 2002 19:49:48
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  False end times predictions

  by seedy3 in

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  i'm not sure where the best place for this is but it looked good in this section and i think most of you will get a kick out of it.

  check out the wts mentioned here, and this isn't even an apostate sight, and they sure make fun of the jdubs.. .

  i just loved this site lmao.. seedy

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  "Sometime between April 16 and 23, 1957, Armageddon will sweep the world! Millions of persons will perish in its flames and the land will be scorched."

  still bearing the good news

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  I'll Just Bet They Do Go Beyond...

  by Francois in

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  ...the things written.

  ol' needle nose jaracz claims they don't, but they do.

  most of jw so-called "theology" is nothing more than the interpretation of men, nothing more.

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  aluminium, vaccination...........

  that's a roger houston

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  re: question on the magi

  by A Paduan in

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  2. beliefs

  i think that i read somewhere that jws believe that the magi who followed the star were 'evil' .

  is that the case - if so how did they figure that?

  paduan

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  Well, the ' vital truth whose importance the org stresses ' about Satan's star seems like a well investigated trip down the wrong road.

  "Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we have seen His star in the East and have come to worship Him."

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  re: question on the magi

  by A Paduan in

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  i think that i read somewhere that jws believe that the magi who followed the star were 'evil' .

  is that the case - if so how did they figure that?

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  I wonder where Dungbeetle is
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  The only ones?

  by funkyderek in

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  yesterday i was approached by a man who offered me a free stress test.

  i immediately recognised this as a scientology scam (ok, he was standing outside the scientology building) but it got me thinking.. ireland is a small country, and over 90 percent of the population are catholic.

  most of the rest are anglican or presbyterian.

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  Boy, the grass IS greener over there

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  What are JW's embarrased to say to interested ones

  by In_between_days in

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  my latest addition to my thread "armageddon - jw speculations" got me thinking.

  i was talking about jw's, and how they will avoid telling people at the doors that they believe they will be the only ones to survive armageddon.. i know when i was a jw, there was certain things that i was embarrased to tell interested ones about, and prefered to avoid the issue, or prance around it, trying to make it sound less harsh, or make me look like a complete nut.

  when i talk to my jw family now, i notice there are certain issues that they will try to deny about the organisation, constantly.

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  what they're thinking - "we know bible stuff, you don't - that means you're birdseed"

  The opener is predictable - I think 'here it comes'; and they say something like, "what do you think of the state of the world these days". Everytime, it reminds me of scripture - they'll talk about the world because they are of the world

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  re: question on the magi

  by A Paduan in

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  i think that i read somewhere that jws believe that the magi who followed the star were 'evil' .

  is that the case - if so how did they figure that?

  paduan

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  How do they explain - and falling down they worshipped Him ?

  I think I've got it - the wtbts think that it means "bow down like a slave" or "pay homage" - like someone fearful.

  Would that be it then ? - that by altering the meaning of worship, they can effectively demonise the magi - covering the fact that those "from the east" recognised the light of Christ - before those from the west.

  paduan

  Edited by - a paduan on 21 August 2002 2:23:37
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  re: question on the magi

  by A Paduan in

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  i think that i read somewhere that jws believe that the magi who followed the star were 'evil' .

  is that the case - if so how did they figure that?

  paduan

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  I didn't think that post worked.

  Thanks. - simple as that maybe. That's very paranoid.

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  CounterPoint to Reasoning Book

  by BadJerry in

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  as part of helping myself and my family to see past the smoke and curtains, i have started on a journey to write and publish an e-book that will present counterpoints to "reasoning from the scriptures".

  i am looking to see if there are any out there that might contribute, since i want to handle each point covered in that book (and complete it before the end of this system - oops, sometimes flashbacks occur).

  if interested, email me or respond here.

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  I don't have the book but I'm willing to help as might be appropriate - however I don't have anything to do with fundy issues such as determining dates etc. Post a couple of points and Lord willing, I'll have a look and see.

  paduan

  Edited by - a paduan on 21 August 2002 0:18:6